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5 worst betrayals how did you work through them?
Posted 08 March 2003 - 11:10 AM
I am now the mad deranged member fo the famliy because I dare to express the opinion that this isnt right.
How did i work thru it? I said fuck the lot of you.
Posted 26 March 2003 - 05:36 PM
How I got over it. I had so many friends with me, and of cource, I had Pandy's also, to run to... talking to them and the people here was the only thing that kept me sane.
Posted 30 March 2003 - 12:07 AM
the second worse is when my boyfriend told me i cheated on him while i was being r*ped. He called it cheating!
Posted 22 April 2003 - 07:24 AM
Posted 12 July 2003 - 04:51 PM
i have never posted before so i am a little nervous. I have 2 betrayals.
First, i was r*ped by a guy that i thought was my friend when i was 12 (a month before my 13th bday). two of his friends watched and did not help. i could see them watching and laughing and i couldn't breathe, but they did not help me. they tormented me throughout high school...saying i was a tramp and threatening me every chance they got. one time, they spray-painted my name and "whore" all through the upstairs hallway of school one day for everyone to see.
The second betrayal came from my mother. After the attack, they put me into their car and dumped me out in front of my house. i was muddy and dirty - broken. i had bruises all over my neck and body. my mother found me, crying in the bottom of my shower. she insisted that i never speak of what happened. when the bruises faded, she took me to the doctor just to have me put on birth control. i cried while the doctor examined me. i proceeded to hyperventilate and pass out. the doctor asked me if there was anything i wanted to tell him. my mother quickly said "no" and rushed me out of the door with a perscription in hand.
i don't blame her. she didn't know how to help me. she grew up in a family that didn't talk about "dirty things". i guess it rubbed off. it has been 17 years and i have only told my mother, my husband and one therapist that my husband and i saw before we got married.
#6 Guest_Stephanie Joy_*
Posted 26 July 2003 - 09:14 AM
Having my grampa abuse me...when grampas are supposed to take you fishing and to the park and you're supposed to love them and like ebing with them.
When my parents didn't do much about it and told me never to talk about it. When they took better care of him then they did me.
When my dad let him near me even though I was shaking with terror. And he did really nothing about it because he felt guilty over his own sexual problems. (so he felt bad accusing my grampa)
When my parents refused to see my pain.
You know...sometimes I feel betrayed by the whole world. :(
I'm working on it...but am surely not past my betrayal issues yet.
#7 Guest_dream of water_*
Posted 07 March 2003 - 05:58 PM
I'd like to start a thread. 5 worst betrayals ... and how did you work through them?
Feels like being betrayed when you know something happened and someone denies it ... even though they should know better. That's the situation I'm stuck in with my gf. I'm reading other stories and there just seem to be so many betrayals ON TOP OF the pain you're already feeling ... by bf's, gf's, families, friends, professionals.
(Edited by dream of water at 1:53 am on June 5, 2003)
Posted 07 March 2003 - 11:49 PM
Well...there's lots of betrayals, but one in particular was the worst I think. I had been r*ped again by this man that was in my life hurting me for years. But this time he was violent. He insisted that I go out somewhere with him the next weekend. I was scared and didn't feel I had a choice, so I talked to some friends. They understood my fear but didn't exactly know the story. These two guys decided to go with me and him so they could protect me if he got out of line. But when he was getting out of line they didn't stop him. They joined in. And that's when I lost all touch with reality. One day, when I could think about what happened without screaming, I found this place.
As for getting through it. I haven't. So I'm especially glad that you started this thread. I refuse to trust anyone. I've hurt so many people's feeling by my obvious lack of trust and my inability to voice WHY I can't believe in anyone. Patience and love from my friends and family is helping me to understand how to have faith in anyone again. But it is a long hard road.
#9 Guest_dream of water_*
Posted 08 March 2003 - 11:22 AM
For me betrayal is the worst people can do to each other. It needs to be acknowledged, it needs to be seen and it needs to get out of the system. Everyone talks about “just moving on”. For me that comes only after the depth of the pain has been told.
********T********* Violating trust. The worst … and I’m just a secondary survivor. Either way, if you care you have to live with the aftermath, whether you were betrayed yourself or you had your entire life changed because of the selfishness of people that have betrayed the one you love. A lot of s**t goes down. Here are a few betrayals:
- My gf desperately needed a “best friend” after leaving her marriage. Her sister was post-partum and asked her to move across the continent to live with her and her husband and their infant daughter. That “friend” ended up being her brother-in-law. After confiding in him about experiencing CSA and sexual abuse throughout her marriage, and that she didn’t know how to stop “men like that”, the brother-in-law took advantage. This is the father of the infant, someone who should be helping his wife get through post-partum! It’s a first child and the mother was having a really rough time. She was abandoned. It sucks! There are betrayals on top of betrayals here!
- Anyway, the brother-in-law turns his back on his wife, finds out his sister-in-law has a vulnerability, an abuse past, and what does he do? He sees her as an “opportunity”. It’s so unbelievably callous. He started abusing her, seeing what he could get, telling her he was “freeing” her. She cried when he touched her or tried to kiss her. She told him she really needed friendship. He kept trying to work situations so he could be alone with her. Then he’d assault her, always with compliments and words like “I don’t deserve you”. If she stopped him, he would play on her sympathy and get depressed. She’d try to console him and before she knew it, he had turned it sexual again. She knows he had an agenda all his own now, but then she was just very messed up by his weird persistence, she was needing a friend and not wanting to hurt that friend. He just kept building up and desensitizing her step by step until one night he got her drunk and r*ped her. She endured his abuse pattern for over three years. She tried to be careful with him AND be his friend. She blamed herself if he did anything. Eventually she just wouldn’t have anything to do with him. Then he said she was selfish because she "dropped him after getting what she wanted". It’s a mindf**k! I’m writing all this because I think people should share stories about how manipulative some people can be. It is SO damaging.
- Two years after it had stopped, after getting up enough courage to break her silence, she told her sister. The shame and guilt of carrying this secret had made her almost suicidal. That was a dark time. I didn’t know what to do, I wasn’t sure what was wrong but I found myself just trying to keep her alive at times. It got so desperate. Some days she’d just disappear. Eventually, she got herself a therapist and shortly after broke her silence to me. Then she told her sister.
- Her sister denies it all. She says she knew all along about the “affair” because her husband (the abuser) told her. No one told my gf. It sickens me to see people manipulating the truth and manipulating other people like this.
It hurts to see the damage that denial can do. My gf carried all this pain and took so much abuse because she didn’t want her sister to know what kind of monster she had married. For what? To be betrayed? She remembers a car ride when her sister was saying how wonderful her husband was and how good he was to her. My gf just couldn’t bring herself to tell her. All the time, the husband just kept abusing my gf. He played both of them, knowing them well enough to know they wouldn’t talk about this. It’s the abusers trick isn’t it … to know how to keep someone from telling.
(Edited by dream of water at 1:55 am on June 5, 2003)
Posted 26 March 2003 - 01:43 PM
Glen told me that he wasn't sure if he believed me, that I had really been raped, because I enjoyed physical touch so much now (three years later). To prove to him that I was telling the truth, he wanted me to tell him all the details of the rape - he wanted to know every part of it. And he would bring up bits and pieces of it after that, or ask questions about it whenever he wanted to. When he wanted to pressure me to have sex with him (something I never did), he even tried it in the same position in which I was raped.
Then, when I ended the relationship, he made derogatory comments about me either not truly being a rape survivor, or having deserved it ("You're just a recovering tramp") - and shouted these comments at me down the hallway of my apartment building.
At any earlier time I think this would have hurt a lot more than it did - and it still hurts a lot, and has made me a lot more cautious in who I trust, all over again. But I don't doubt the reality of what happened to me, and I won't let him take and twist the truth, or put blame on me.
Posted 27 March 2003 - 06:52 PM
Posted 27 March 2003 - 09:52 PM
well..there's the one where I trusted two males with the knowledge of what happened to me between Steve and Avon Lake and they proceeded to prove that they were just as bad.
Then of course, there's my mother who is happy in her ignorant bubble of denial about what happened and continues to try and get Steve and I "together again".
There's another one somewhere that I seem to have forgotten at the moment.
Posted 28 March 2003 - 05:55 PM
I feel betrayed by my mother's inability to hear or understand my pain -- I can't imagine turning my daughter away when she said, "they're grabbing my breasts and touching me and they won't stop", but she did just that. And warned me not to tell my father, because he would be too embarrassed and upset to even look at me again, or he would do something that might make trouble.
Finally, I feel betrayed by my husband, who won't hear my concerns about our marriage, about my mental health, about how I've lost myself. He is perfectly content to ignore any pain I might feel. This is still too raw to talk about much, so I'm going to stop now.
#14 Guest_dream of water_*
Posted 17 April 2003 - 03:22 PM
Another betrayal last night. One of my gf's sisters explained her silence ... as in not calling since November ... by saying that she's just trying to see both sides, to understand both sisters.
She says B**** was "in love".
So that makes three years of peeping, daily harrassment, assault, stalking, drugging with alcohol, infidelity, forced inc*st, attempted r*pe, deception, coercion, crying, apologies from him, broken promises, extreme mindgames, singing improvised songs about my gf's body at family gatherings (?!?!?!?!), his drunken visits begging to be let in at 3 in the morning, his yelling and waking neighbours, howling until she'd open the door, her subsequent alienation from the whole neighbourhood, the accusations she had to withstand from her ex husband, the open disrespect and bullying from her sister, and finally r*pe that involved being pulled down, dragged from the front to the back seat of a vehicle, his fist pumping when a cyclist rang his bell in approval as he drove by the alley they were in as as he saw B**** r*ping her on the ground behind a hydro box, the injury to her head she sustained when he got her so drunk she couldn't walk and he pulled her down, the stripping of clothes and pushing down into a ditch in a forest, his "don't stop resisting, I like it when you fight" during the last r*pe, and the complete devastation of her home life and self esteem ...
Oh...it was because he was "in love".
OMG I feel such a fool for not appreciating that. Apparently I should have been more aware that "love knows no bounds".
Thanks for letting me get that one out.
(Edited by dream of water at 1:58 am on June 5, 2003)
Posted 19 April 2003 - 08:03 PM
I have 2. One was when my dad found out his best friend molested me his response was "Well, would you mind if we were still friends?" What!!!!! The response I was hoping for was "Let's prosicute!!!!" "Let me go hit him" "Are you okay? Do you need anything?" Something, anything but what he said. How could a dad just not care? It makes me mad to this day and that was 14 years ago. I will never forget. The way I deal with it is just to know it's him. He is strange (my dad) and he will always be strange.
The second one is I would get drunk and passout and my boyfriend at the time would strip me naked and let his friends f*ck me while I was unconcious. I hate him. The way I deal with that is just to envision him being r*ped or dieing of a slow (very slow) and painful death. I know this is kind of morbid but I have SOOOOO MUCH HATE FOR HIM. Okay maybe I'm not COMPLETELY over it but I'm working on it. Take care everyone and thank you for sharing so I know I'm not all alone in this.